Click on “listen” here. I debated James Bowman who, in a recent Weekly Standard article, argues that the U.S. should not lift the ban on openly gay service because it would undercut notions of masculine honor that ensure combat motivation and cohesion. He begins talking around the 15-minute mark and I begin around the 20-minute mark. Look for a forthcoming blog post where I’ll provide a point-by-point refutation of Bowman’s failed attempt to revive the old “unit cohesion” argument–moral animus dressed up in the banner of national security.